At Home with Moby

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he iconic musician Moby, an avid photographer, animal rights activist, and architecture enthusiast chats with LA Home's Erin Castellino. In this candid interview, he talks about his philosophy and musical process.

“We’re good at analyzing the things in our lives from a status perspective, we want to impress people with our choices, but that’s a very small part of our life.”

Erin Castellino: What brought you to LA?

Moby: I was born in New York and thought I’d live there forever, but after a visit to LA about seven years ago, I had an epiphany. I was having brunch outside in 74-degree weather and then returned to a sleeting 34 degrees in New York. It made me realize that a lot of suffering is optional. New York was becoming increasingly gentrified, pushing many artists and musicians out, so I wanted to live in a warmer place with a vibrant artist community.

The music scene in New York was a big draw for me initially, especially the punk, hip-hop, and indie rock scenes. However, as real estate became prohibitively expensive, musicians and artists had to leave for places with more space to create. Many have moved to LA or even Austin.

LA’s sprawling nature means there’s room for artists to have studios. Unlike cities with strong public transportation, where gentrification tends to happen, LA’s inadequate transport system allows for more affordable real estate in areas that are not overly gentrified.

When I decided to move, I had specific criteria: a warm winter, an artist community, and easy access to nature. Even with its vast size, LA was the only place that met all those needs.

Where do I want to live in this vast county? Initially, I thought I wanted to be by the beach, but then I discovered it was cold. Why leave a chilly place to move somewhere where swimming is nearly impossible? I love the Pacific Ocean and the coastal communities, but they’re far from the creative hubs where my friends live—90% of whom are in Eagle Rock, Echo Park, Highland Park, and Silver Lake. So, I lived in Los Feliz to be closer to them and the film and music studios.

Moby in his minimalist flexible space. Photo by Dhrumil Desai

When I first moved, I lived in West Hollywood, but I didn’t know anyone there and lacked the community I craved. I love the East Side of LA because it was developed before cars became prevalent, giving it a unique cohesion. The preservation of Griffith Park reflects this belief that nature is essential for people.

In making choices about living spaces, I wonder if we do so based on genuine needs or societal pressures. Many people build massive houses for status instead of practicality. We often prioritize impressing others over what truly enhances our everyday experiences. Ultimately, excess can detract from our ability to enjoy the simple moments in life.

When people have excess space, it can be oddly isolating. One of the things I like about living here is that I see other people. Some friends who live way up in Nichols Canyon, Mulholland, don’t encounter other people. And I think humans are gregarious, and when we don’t have human contact, we go insane. They call it Ted Kaczynski disorder, the Unabomber disorder. Neurochemically, things go awry when you don’t have human contact (even if it’s just to “say hi to your neighbor”). And this is a very neighborly neighborhood. Everyone walks their dogs, everyone goes to Trails Cafe, and everyone’s hiking.

How you live and how you utilize your living space is crucial. I had a spacious dining room and living room in my old house that I rarely used—just one or two days a year for the dining room and five or so times for the living room. So, in my new place, I converted the dining room into a library since I’d use it more often and left the living room empty, drawing inspiration from the yoga retreats we go on. Those retreats typically use multi-purpose spaces for meditation and events instead of designating specific areas to conform to longstanding traditions.

Many people prioritize appearance over actual living spaces, often in pursuit of status and wealth. This mindset can turn homes into displays of status, which has limited benefits.

It can make friends without similar wealth feel inadequate. Secondly, it attracts superficial people focused solely on status. Lastly, it compromises everyday living. For example, if I see an original Rothko in someone’s home, I wonder if spending $25 million on that was the best choice. A nice poster for $100 on eBay could serve just as well, leaving a lot more money to invest in something more unique.

A globe from Moby's collection. Photo by Dhrumil Desai

Let’s talk about that because you have quite a few collections and some interesting art. When you’re paring down your world, your life, and your space – are there still certain things that you like to collect?

For me, collecting things needs a personal connection. I prefer art and items made by friends or found on the street. I don’t want anything expensive because it leads to worrying about it. The only costly items I own are a few musical instruments for work. I’d rather have a $100 couch than a $1000 couch I’d stress over if my dog chewed it. And when you have expensive art or expensive clothes or expensive anything – you are buying anxiety.

I want to talk about architecture now.

I know you have photographed and blogged about Los Angeles architecture. How did you start getting interested in architecture?

Part of it is that I grew up poor white trash, and my mom and I, for a while, lived in Connecticut in one of the wealthiest towns in the world.
We were on food stamps and welfare, living in a garage apartment. So, it made me aware of my space instead of other people’s. Technically, we lived in a one-bedroom. My mom slept in the living room and I slept in the small bedroom. My friends had 10-acre estates with tennis courts and horse paddocks. It made me very aware of spaces, how they are used, and how they are perceived.

Then, when I moved back to New York, I bought a loft in the late 80’s. I started thinking about it. Now I have this empty space, and I can do whatever I want with it; what should I do? I started thinking of the elementary variables, like light, privacy, and function and that’s what sparked my interest in architecture because the criteria by which Architecture are evaluated is both tertiary, meaning ‘how does it look, how does it photograph’, then it is also how does it meet the needs of the people who need the space.

Rarely is the criteria applied to other art because most other art is utterly elective. Architecture has this specific utility, and I love that aspect of it. Especially now, living in southern California, the vast majority of architectural choices are arbitrary. It’s so enduring and strange that we live in the desert and we have peep roofs on our houses. The only reason a house should ever have a peep roof is to keep snow off it. That’s why peep roofs were invented – it was a cold place where it snowed, and if you had a flat roof, the roof would fall in. In Southern California, where you have Norman Castles and hacienda-style houses – all these weird, different architectural styles bafflingly coexist on the same street.

It seems your interest lies within mid-century.

I like everything. I like crumbly little shacks, and I like Neutra houses. For me, Lautner was the most remarkable architect ever. John Lautner had this understanding that everything is fluid and everything, ideally, could be playful.

Lautner’s best houses reflect a playful spirit typical of Southern California, favoring creative choices like angled windows and swimming pools in living rooms, unlike the more formal styles of Schindler and Neutra. In LA, there’s also the phenomenon of mega-mansions (10,000 sq. ft.) versus giga-mansions (20,000 sq. ft.), where owners of the former complain about their neighbors’ larger homes. This seems trivial—perhaps instead of arguing about mansion sizes, they could find more meaningful hobbies or volunteer work, as these issues appear absurd against the backdrop of real problems.

You have a new album that you’re working on. How is that going? Are you touring anymore?


The question of why we do what we do is crucial. We should regularly ask ourselves whether our actions align with our values and benefit ourselves and others, rather than simply doing things out of habit. This reflects the ‘is-ought fallacy’ in philosophy—just because something is, doesn’t mean it ought to be.

For years, I kept touring despite hating it. I realized in 1999 that the lifestyle—airports, strange hotels, and unhealthy food—interrupted the life I truly valued. Eventually, I decided to tour as little as possible. The longest tour lasted 18 months, with 5 or 6 shows a week. This frustrates my manager since musicians often rely on touring for income, but my passion lies in making music, regardless of financial success.

Moby at home. Photo by Dhrumil Desai
I focus on the joy of creating rather than how my music is received. While commercial success used to matter, now the enjoyment of the process is paramount. Music is a deeply personal art, and how it feels to create it is what truly matters.
 
I’m more excited about making a record than releasing it. Is there a finalization – I finally got it all figured out, I can put it aside? Actually hardly enough, if I’m being honest with myself. Finishing a record is the most disappointing part of making records because there is no more potential. I like the finished product but it is way more exciting when the song is half-finished, because you have no idea what’s going to happen. I almost observe the tension created by that, saying the song is half-finished. When it is done, it might be terrible, it might be mediocre and it might be great. Who knows? That is the most exciting part of making a record. Like being in my car, listening to unfinished music, just having this sense of potential and not potential like, yay it got a billion downloads. It’s more like the potential of creating something beautiful and you never know how or where that’s going to come from.
 
When will your new album be released?
 
September, October. (2016) I’m my record label. That’s one of the things that is very weird and solipsistic. I make the record and I’m also the boss. In LA, many creative disciplines are so big and collaborative. In order to get
a movie made or TV show or whatever, you have to get outside funding and approvals from all these different people, and gather up all these people. And I’m just one person. My friends who are screenwriters, directors. For them to make a movie or TV show, it’s years of re-drafts and funding, and they hate me because I just wake up and do whatever I want to do – which doesn’t mean I’m good at it, it just means that it’s a very different approach to pursue my art. It doesn’t cost me anything to make a record; the result is that no one else is that involved. So, if it is good, I get to take a little more credit; if it’s bad, I can’t blame anyone. If it’s bad, that’s just me.
 
Do you have any hobbies aside from music?
 
I’ve been a photographer since I was 10, thanks to my uncle who worked for the New York Times and gave me his old gear. Shooting photos helps me see the world differently; it encourages a deeper observation compared to casual sharing on platforms like Instagram. I enjoy documenting my experiences thoughtfully. In that sense, I’m a professional hobbyist in photography. It’s almost like a weird form of mindfulness in which you observe things more closely. So that’s a hobby – it’s also a job because I have a gallery selling the works. I’m a professional hobbyist when it comes to photography.
 
Speaking of other art forms, what about the restaurant that you’re putting together?
 
I am opening an organic vegan restaurant in Silver Lake with a focus on a different kind of entrepreneurialism. While making money is important, I believe there are broader goals—like supporting organic farmers and promoting veganism and animal rights. A community space that provides healthy food that actually serves people’s nutritional needs, a space where artists, writers, and musicians can meet, hang out, or get a job. 
 
How long have you been a Vegan?
27 years
 
Why did you become a vegan? Was it a health issue?
 
It was simply that I love animals, and in good conscience, I just can’t be involved in any practice that contributes to animals’ suffering. Death is unavoidable, suffering is avoidable. If I am given a choice between one action that causes suffering and one action that doesn’t support suffering, I just think I need to choose an action that doesn’t cause suffering.
 
You are involved in animal rights activism?
 
For years now, I’ve worked with a lot of different animal rights organizations. Some local, some regional, and national. From the Humane Society to PETA to Compassion Over Killing to Mercy for Animals. One of the only good uses of fame and financial resources is helping causes you care about. If fame is just self-aggrandizing, it is an entirely offensive waste of time. If famous people in LA are just interested in self-aggrandizement, they don’t benefit from it – they don’t ever seem happy. If it made famous people happy, you’d see lots of smiling actors, and you’d go to Beverly Hills, and it wouldn’t be filled with divorce lawyers, plastic surgeons, and whatever. So, I use whatever small amount of fame I have, to benefit the causes that are important to me.
 
We have a lot to learn from you because you’ve figured out how to create your own space and function in place on the planet, taking care of your friends, people, and animals and your health simultaneously. 
 
I’d feel uncomfortable if they “learn” from me, I’m not an elitist. My only advice is to “Take a step back and see if what you’re doing works.” We often engage in activities that don’t serve our needs or communities, like extracting petrochemicals instead of using renewable energy or processing food that loses its nutrition. It’s sometimes tough to find the right path, but we know what leads to a bad life: unhealthy food, toxic products, lack of social connections, unfulfilling work, isolation from the community, and disconnection from nature. Recognize what doesn’t work, eliminate it, and fill your life with what does.
 
I hope everybody is listening to that. That’s excellent advice. Is there anything else that you want to talk about?
 
There’s a one thing that is very relevant and important to me – water use. It is the biggest issue facing people in Southern California. There is an instant solution to California’s water crisis. It’s the most obvious thing, and unfortunately, I don’t hear anyone talking about it, which is Agriculture.
 
Certain agricultural practices are much more water-efficient, like beans, while others, such as livestock, rice, and cotton, are highly water-intensive. If the State stopped subsidizing these water-heavy industries, California could have 50% more water. Producing one pound of beef requires 10,000 gallons, compared to just 100 gallons for beans. The focus on reducing personal water use, like taking shorter showers, pales in comparison to the water used in livestock, rice, and cotton farming. Eliminating these sectors could alleviate California’s water crisis and provide ample water for more sustainable agricultural practices..
 
70% of water goes to agriculture, but no one is discussing it. I’m forming a coalition of environmental groups and public leaders to propose a solution: eliminate livestock, rice, and cotton in desert regions and relocate them to states like Montana or Wyoming with ample water. It’s impractical to have cattle and rice in a desert. Other places, like Australia, have successfully moved their cattle from drought-stricken areas. Municipalities suggest short showers, but we should prioritize removing water-intensive agriculture first.
 
In closing, I wanted to ask you about your name. Is that your given
name, Moby?
 
My legal name is Richard Melville, chosen by my parents before I was born. When I was a tiny baby, my mom thought “Richard Melville” was too big for me. My dad jokingly suggested “Moby” since I’m related to Herman Melville, the author of Moby Dick. It’s funny how many people don’t know who he is. It’s a playful name that has stuck with me for 49 years.
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